> Literally no one, aside yourself, believes that it’s impossible to communicate
I don't know, there is pretty strong evidence in this discussion that we are unable to communicate. Your apparent opinion of I am saying continues to show to be incorrect over and over — and I'm sure that goes both ways.
In fact, it seems evident that, deep down, you already realize this as you have stopped even trying to add anything of your own to the discussion, outsourcing to the words of others. Poor form to not be able to speak to something yourself, but I can appreciate that your emotions are starting to run wild on realizing that the world isn't as simple as you originally imagined.
But, as before, I likely have the wrong opinion about what you are trying to say. There is no objective way to measure language. QED.
That would depend on your opinion of what those words mean, but in my opinion neither has any applicability to our discussion. Not sure why you would want to take the discussion off topic now unless that is the only way you can find to try and sooth hot-running emotions?
Let's face it, there is no technical reason for us to disagree. The universe is what it is and that is an incontrovertible fact. We can measure the state of universe scientifically. There is fundamentally nothing we can disagree about except our opinion of the language. And, indeed, it is apparent that we are failing to discuss the state of the universe because our opinion about what the words mean is ostensibly not shared.
But, I mean, that's what we've been talking about the whole time: that there is no objective way to measure language. If you are trying to repeat what I said from the start, what value do you believe is added? Simple acknowledgement?
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1621
https://www.gov.uk/contempt-of-court
https://www.uklegalguides.com/what-is-fraud/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro-Truth_Pledge
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8n99727lvo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton
And they are literally hundreds of thousands of other examples I could share where communication is understood to have provable truthful states.
Literally no one, aside yourself, believes that it’s impossible to communicate a fact nor that lies doesn’t exist.